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'Ban all tobacco' - US health chief
Guardian (UK) ^ | June 4, 2003 | Duncan Campbell

Posted on 06/04/2003 7:05:08 PM PDT by Mister Magoo

'Ban all tobacco' - US health chief

Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles Thursday June 5, 2003 The Guardian

The surgeon general of the United States, Richard Carmona, has said he would support the abolition of cigarettes and all tobacco products, the first time that such a senior public health official has taken that kind of stand over the industry. Dr Carmona's statement was welcomed yesterday by anti-smoking organisations and condemned by the tobacco industry. The Bush administration, which enjoys the support and financial backing of the tobacco industry, yesterday distanced itself from the abolition position.

The US already has some of the toughest anti-smoking legislation in the world. California has led the way. Last year it banned smoking in all areas next to playgrounds or "tot lot" areas. Similar measures are being considered nationwide.

The state, which has banned smoking in public buildings, bars and restaurants, is also considering a ban in some blocks of flats. Delaware has a similar ban. Connecticut will impose one from next April, and this week Maine moved towards a ban. New York has banned smoking in bars and restaurants.

Ordinances framed also by local councils curtailing cigarette smoking are introduced almost weekly. Santa Monica recently made it an offence, punishable by a £160 fine, to dispose of "smoking-related waste" in a public park.

There have, however, been few suggestions that tobacco should be banned altogether.

Dr Carmona made his controversial remarks while giving evidence to energy and commerce sub-committee hearings at Congress on smoking products that supposedly reduce the risk of cancer. He was asked if he would support the abolition of "all tobacco products". He said: "I would at this point, yes."

He said that he was not a legislator but that he would "support banning or abolishing tobacco products ". He saw "no need for any tobacco products in society".

One of the country's leading anti-smoking campaigners, Jeffrey Wigand, the head of Smokefree Kids, said: "I applaud him. I hope that stirs people up to do something. This would set a tremendous precedent and would have a major effect on world health."

Mr Wigand, a tobacco industry whistleblower who was portrayed by the actor Russell Crowe in the film The Insider, said it was notable that such a senior public health official was so outspoken. "There are 460,000 deaths directly attributable to tobacco in the United States every year," said Mr Wigand. "The World Health Organisation estimates that by 2015 tobacco will be killing more than 10 million a year."

He said that the US, as the leading exporter of tobacco, had a particular responsibility to regulate tobacco use.

But Dr Carmona's remarks are unlikely to lead to any radical moves by the administration. The tobacco industry is a longtime supporter of the Republican party and there have been objections by conservative and libertarian commentators to the restaurant and bar smoking bans.

The White House yesterday said that Dr Carmona's remarks represented his views as a doctor, not those of the administration, whose main focus was discouraging young people from smoking. About 45 million Americans smoke, in a population of 280 million.

Tobacco companies have changed their strategies on the issue of regulation. Philip Morris, the country's biggest tobacco company, is running adverts urging teenagers to "think, don't smoke". They argue that their products are aimed at adults and the issue is one of freedom of choice.

Cigarettes in films is the subject of one of the latest anti-smoking campaigns; the public has been urged to complain by writing to actors who smoke on screen. Tobacco firms have denied that they paid for actors to use their products in films.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nazis; pufflist; tobacco; wodlist
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1 posted on 06/04/2003 7:05:08 PM PDT by Mister Magoo
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To: Mister Magoo
I disagree with him, and would refuse to follow this law when it came to cigars, but I can at least respect this a helluva lot more than these tax loving mf'ers out there who just want to tax it out of existance.

As a side note, maybe I should start a tobacco business.........worked for Joe Kennedy.

2 posted on 06/04/2003 7:07:33 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Hey Moose! Rocco! - Help the judge find his checkbook, will ya?")
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To: Mister Magoo
As I sit here smoking I still say "ban it or leave me alone" I don't care which but pick one or the other.
3 posted on 06/04/2003 7:08:50 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (9/11: I'm still not over it)
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To: Mister Magoo
AH yes.... The party of smaller government.
4 posted on 06/04/2003 7:08:59 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: Just another Joe
Ping for the smoker's list, sir.
5 posted on 06/04/2003 7:12:31 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: Mister Magoo
'Ban all tobacco' - US health chief

...create a new black market, more gang violence, higher crime rates, more illicit sales with no taxation....

Has anyone learned ANYTHING from the Prohibition Era or the current War on Drugs????

6 posted on 06/04/2003 7:12:47 PM PDT by D. Brian Carter
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To: Mister Magoo
the U.N said so
7 posted on 06/04/2003 7:13:38 PM PDT by certify
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To: Mister Magoo
These lazy UK journalists have not bothered to figure out the the "US Health Chief" - the Surgeon General, is a cerimonal position with no power.
8 posted on 06/04/2003 7:13:56 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: BCrago66
No statutory power, but an enormous power to influence public policy.
9 posted on 06/04/2003 7:15:29 PM PDT by Mister Magoo
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To: Mister Magoo
I don't think so.
10 posted on 06/04/2003 7:18:18 PM PDT by John W
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To: Mister Magoo
That oughta wreck about 50 state budgets. Must be the idea? How many deaths would this result in? You know, the ones that don't "matter much"?
11 posted on 06/04/2003 7:19:08 PM PDT by Waco
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To: D. Brian Carter
The fun will really start when the tobacco companies decide that it is no longer profitable to product and switch to other products. It wouldn't be the government declaring a prohibition. It would be the manufacturer making a product obsolete. Talk about panic and hysteria. Congress would have a mass stroke.
12 posted on 06/04/2003 7:19:43 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: D. Brian Carter
LOL

Look at it like this, this is a chance for us non-criminals to make ourselves a tidy profit by catering to an even LARGER drug market than cocaine or marijuana.
13 posted on 06/04/2003 7:20:22 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: D. Brian Carter
Has anyone learned ANYTHING from the Prohibition Era or the current War on Drugs????

Law Enforcement and the political hacks that they answer to have learned quite a bit. They know that this would be one more thing that they can pull you over for on the road, use to get a no-knock search warrant so your front door can be kicked in and then confiscate your property. It's not about public health... it's not about saving medicare...and no, it's not even "for the children." It's about money and control.

14 posted on 06/04/2003 7:20:49 PM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: Mister Magoo
Please, PLEASE! Help me. I need guidance on what to do with my life. HELP!
15 posted on 06/04/2003 7:21:42 PM PDT by chachacha
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To: Dan from Michigan
Maybe that's why some politicians want to ban everything -- then they can go into business dealing in what they banned and get rich like Joe Kennedy.

One thing you can be sure of -- if the blood is flowing up to one's knees in the inner cities thanks to the War on Drugs, there will be blood flowing up to your eyes everywhere once the War on Tobacco gets established. This will make Prohibition seem like a Sunday school picnic and the War on Drugs just a rowdy footbal game by comparison. Terrorists will get so much illegal tobacco money they won't know what to do with it all -- they will buy some pretty sophisticated nukes with the money. Some "conservative" moralistic busy-bodies and liberal health Nazis will tear the Constitution in half and smoke it.

16 posted on 06/04/2003 7:24:30 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: Orangedog
You know,you have a point.I'm still waiting for a reply after about a year from the Indiana State Police.I emailed them regarding the fact that driving to work about 20 miles daily on one of the deadliest stretches of two-lane highway in Northern Indiana,I never saw a trooper in 15 years.Now that its been replaced by a four-lane straighter road where theres more money to be made,they swarm over it.Safety my a$$.Its the $$$s.
17 posted on 06/04/2003 7:25:33 PM PDT by John W
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To: Mister Magoo
Hmmm, what is the best way to stockpile and preserve cigars?
18 posted on 06/04/2003 7:32:21 PM PDT by Az Joe
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To: D. Brian Carter
Bingo! You sure hit the nail on the head!

Just what we need--another huge bureaucracy fighting another war on some substance. This one will be particularly onerous, since the use of tobacco has been so popular for so many years.

19 posted on 06/04/2003 7:38:55 PM PDT by basil
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To: DAnconia55
AH yes.... The party of smaller government.

LOL...And they wonder why so many have abandoned the Republican Party!
20 posted on 06/04/2003 7:40:44 PM PDT by LittleJoe
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